Confusion: Functional or Technical Apps Consultant
Parvin raised a very valid and important question. Should he work towards becoming a Functional Apps Consultant or a Technical Apps Consultant? I guess, this is a very common confusion for those who decide to switch their career into becoming an Oracle Apps Consultant. It becomes important to find an answer to this question specially if you are about to commit huge amount of money into an Oracle Applications Training Course. Finding the right answer to this question is very important, as it can possibly change the course of your life. First some thumb rules, that will hold true in most cases:- 1. You can work towards becoming a Functional Consultant if :- a. You are from an Accounting Background b. You were a Super User for Financials/HRMS Manufacturing Modules for many years. You may even consider taking up a Support Analyst role. c. You have never written a "Hello World" program, regardless of the programming language. d. You are a MBA from a non-technical background e. You don't mind spending most part of your day in meetings & writing documents. f. You understand the overall ERP system very well, and how it all hangs together knowing the dependencies between various modules. 2. You must work towards becoming a Technical Consultant if:- a. You are from a technical background, regardless of the stream i.e. Electrics/Comps etc. Even a Civil Engineer can make into a good Oracle Apps Technical Consultant. b. You want to be a technical Oracle Apps consultant but you fear whether you can succeed. Remember, fear is important, as it gets the best out of you. c. You find writing lengthy documents very boring. d. You like to get a feeling of having achieved something each day. e. You do not have much patience(like me), then surely you must not be a functional person. Some of the end users can really test your patience to limits. f. You don't mind taking difficult challenges at times. g. You can't be bothered to know how say Order Management links with General Ledger. Pros of choosing a Technical path 1. For each Functional person, there are at an average 3 to 5 technical consultants. Hence more job opportunities for Technical Oracle Applications Role. 2. If you are an immigrant, then you face lesser comptetion from local workforce in western countries. For example, in UK I notice there are more Brits doing functional job than the number of Brits doing technical job. So much so that, I have seen some of my old techie friends to switch to functional roles latter in their career. 3. Not much emphasis on educational background. This holds very true in Europe, where you will be recruited(provided you have some experience) purely on the basis of your technical skills & technical knowledge. Cons of choosing a Technical path 1. You have to keep up with ever changing technology and toolsets. For example tools like Oracle Forms may be totally redundant after 5Years from now. 2. More and more work in Oracle Apps is moving to Functional domain. To give an example, prior to introduction of self service personalizations, a developer was required for any single change to the layout of the screen. However now, a functional or even a business super user can be trained within half a day to do Self Service Personalizations. s to invest in a Oracle Apps Training course. Pros of choosing a Functional path 1. Legislations and business rules do not change as often as does the technology changes. Hence your knowledge can be carried forward from one version of Applicatiton to another. Cons of choosing a Functional path 1. Boring at times, because too much time gets wasted in meetings. 2. It is almost impossible to keep away from office politics. Another stream One ignored stream is Support Analyst. But the reason I haven't discussed this streat here is because you rarely become Support Analyst in your first job. However, to become a good Support Analyst you must know a little bit of SQL. Thanks, Anil Passi |
Comments on "Confusion: Functional or Technical Apps Consultant"
hi,
If possible can u tell what kind of work (just a overview)a tecnical person has to do during job.........
so what i think while going through
ur course it will be better to imagine......
thanks
Pravin
Hi Pravin,
Your questions are exactly the same questions that I had before I learnt Oracle Apps.
There are broadly speaking two level of roles for a technical person in Oracle Apps:-
Entry level oracle apps programmers have below responsibilities:-
1. Developing simple reports using D2k report writer
2. Developing simple forms using D2k
3. Developing views that can be used for example in discoverer reports
4. Developing code for custom.pll to provide zoom etc(now done using forms personalizations)
5. Registering concurrent programs, menus, form functions etc
6. Simple forms/self service personalizations
Below are advanced level roles, which can arguably be broken down into semi-advanced(2+yr experience) and advanced(3-4yr experience)..
Anyway, I have listed them together as below:-
1. Developing interfaces
2. Developing scripts/programs for data migration into Oracle Apps
3. Designing and building custom extensions and customizations with series of screens possibly with tight integration with other Oracle Apps screens/interfaces/API
4. Developing and customizing oracle workflows. Modifying account generator workflows.
5. Developing self service extensions to OA Framework using jDeveloper.
6. Troubleshooting critical issues.
7. And much more, can't list them all.
Thanks,
Anil passi
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for your effort.
Little confused. I am thinking of undergoing a Course on Oracle apps.
However, I find two options 1# Oracle apps 11i DBA 2# Oracle apps technical Consultant.
I am at present undergoing Oracle 9i DBA Course.
Could you please guide me.
Warm Regards
Pravash K Choubey.
pravash_8183@yahoo.com
Pune India
Hi Pravin
If you are already undergoing a 9i DBA Course, then I suggest you try to become an Apps DBA. I assume you wouldn't have taken up 9i DBA Course unless you were intersted in DBA stream of work.
A friend of mine is running a blog on APPS DBA, which is becomeappsdba.blogspot.com
You will find that blog helpful.
Hi Anil,
Ist i would like to thank you, as you spreading the knowledge like any thing on Apps.
I have faced a question that how the modules AP, PO, AR, and INV interlinked to GL or altogether, Plz can you spare some time on this?
Thanks in Advance
Hi Sree,
Here is the linkage.
In PO you can raise a Requisition which then becomes translated into a Purchase Order. If you have set Encumbrance ON in Purchasing, such transaction will create an encumbrance in General Ledger (via GL_BC_PACKETS).
Next, this Purchase Order gets matched to an Invoice in Account Payables. When this happens, the encumbrance entries get reversed and new entries known as "General Ledger Actuals" get created. All the Payables Accounting entries are first sourced into AP_AE_* tables(called accounting Events). When transfer to GL is run from AP, the Account Event entries then get moved to GL_INTERFACE and from thereon to GL.
For receivables there are some good notes on Metalink explaining the integration. One such Metalink note is 1012392.102.
For INV, transactions get created in MTL_MATERIAL_TRANSACTIONS, and their respective accounting entries are created in MTL_TRANSACTION_ACCOUNTS table, which are grouped as per table ORG_GL_BATCHES and then pushed into General Ledger.
For the interlinkage....
In PO, say company GM-UK raised internal requisition to buy from GM-US. Hence in GM-US a Internal Sales Order Gets created. GM-US have their own inventory from where they ship the goods that are received by Warehouse in GM-UK. GM-US then uses their Receivables to raise AR Invoice to GM-UK. This effectively becomes a Payables Invoice in GM-UKs Org. All these subledgers also post to GL. Hope this explains the inter-linkage of all the modules listed by you.
i want to know if oracle functional consultants have to be dominant and aggressive and very good in communication skills. if we are not like this cannoto we get a job if we did the oracle financial functional course?
The Functional consultant must have excellent communication skills, both written & verbal.
Because they are client facing, they must be
a. Presentable
b. Polite
c. Patient with users.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Hi Anil
Thanks for such a great website which is helping people who is new to oracle apps and professional also.
I am having 4 + year of IT exp in oracle field but in Oracle APps11i HRMS 2 year.
I am working as Technical Consultant in world's leading US based IT consulting firm in India.
I want to know what is the future of oracle Apps HRMS technical guys as i have heard fusion is coming so they are going to use the peoplesoft HRMS .so the oracle apps HRMS professional future will be in dark
another thing that in new version of Apps oracle is going to use all forms & reports using Java/xml so D2k requirement will not be more ?
so all technical guys should start learning Java/xml?
Thanks,
MUKESH
Hi Mukesh,
Your questions are genuine, but dont need to worry.
Knowledge never goes waste.
It is not 100% certain if PeopleSoft HRMS will be used. But the concepts will be the same.
And also peoplesoft HRMS will not be merely copied off the shelf, just their their concepts will be implemented[when the full fusion is out....give it 4yrs]
But sadly D2k will demise.
Read my understanding of Fusion Tools
I am further updating that article as I learn more about Fusion
I did some application developent on Apex (HTMLDB) and
Hi Mukesh,
Your questions are genuine, but dont need to worry.
Knowledge never goes waste.
I did some application design/developent on Apex (HTMLDB) and I was able to use a lot of ideas that I learnt during D2k & Microsoft ASP development.
It is not 100% certain if PeopleSoft HRMS will be used. But the concepts will be the same.
And also peoplesoft HRMS will not be merely copied off the shelf, just their their concepts will be implemented[when the full fusion is out....give it 4yrs]
But sadly D2k will demise.
Read my understanding of Fusion Tools
I am further updating that article as I learn more about Fusion
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for speedy reply.
I also want to be successful oracle Apps consultant like you.
When i see my self on overall 4 year of IT exp, I feel I have to learn lot.
I have spent 2 years in Oracle apps HRMS I know bit functional concepts also in apps HRMS so would it better to be learn functional part in or technical part.
Secondly for being always in as demanded oracle apps professional what would be the better strategy to learn upcoming tech Java/xml or to move more in functional part.
Thanks,
Mukesh
Hi Mukesh,
Good future may be for Functional or may be for Technical.
But good future certainly will be for those that know both Functional & Technical.
A techie with functional knowledge and business understanding will always excel.
Remember...A tech consultant is never just a programmer....a tech consultant is the one that can co-relate each line of code that he/she designs/writes with the business requirement for which development is being done.
In answer to your last question, yes get started with Java from the very basics. Never think that you are late...it will take 4-5yrs for Fusion to Mature. Hence you have ample time to learn XML/Web Services/Java/HTML/Javascript/XSL.
But it is important that you get started with these one by one, slowly but regularly....
Don't worry much about the tools like BPEL...tools can be learnt within Days...learn the underlying concepts.
I will soon begin writing on those articles as I have almost finished writing on basic apps articles.
From a technical point of view is it true that technical PL/SQL developers will have to make a transition towards JAVA.
and that in fusion most of backend PL/SQL code will be replaced with JAVA code
I think Fusion will be a two step implementation from Oracle. Given that they will incorporate tools such as Warehour builder [pl/sql centric], I think they will support pl/sql initially. In the longer run though, they will make Fusion independent of Oracle database.
I must admit that this is an assumption I make after reading all the presentations from Oracle.
Oracle is yet to say anything officialy in this regard.
Hi Anil,
Thank you very much for all of your suggestions in this Blog. They are very useful to me. I am now at a point where my career is going to take a change. So please help me.
I have 3 yrs of experience in Pl/Sql,Forms,Reports + some experience as DBA.I have 2 options now, either shift to/become a:
1) Oracle DBA/Oralce APPS DBA or
2) Oracle APPS Technical Developer
For Option 1, I need to do some more certifications/gain DBA work experience and I am confident that I can become an Oracle DBA or Oralce APPS DBA.
OR
For Option 2, I need to do learn Oracle APPS 11i basics first and then get a junior level APPS Technical Programmer Job. But when APPS rel 12 and fusion gets released, then i am worried that I need to learn/switch to java/soap/webservices and other related technologies. And i dont have any knowledge in them too and so I need to start from the basics only.
So kindly please help me in chossing any one option which will best suit me.
Best Regards,
Dinesh
Hi Dinesh
Are you more comfortable when working on Forms-PL/SQL OR when working on DBA roles?
That should decide whether you take up developers role or APPS DBA Role.
In case you wish to become apps dba , I suggest you visit http://becomeappsdba.blogspot.com
Don't worry about web services,SOA etc. Programming on a web service is very similar to programming on just any object oriented language. only those that accept the challenges of changing with time succeed.
Thanks,
anil
hi anil I am having 1 years of exp. as pl-sql developer
what u think should I enter in sap or oracle apps?
see my question is future(after 5 years) is SAP OR ORACLE APPS??.In India as well as abroad??
because i have heard sap is becoming cheap than oracle so companys preferd sap in india
Hi Anonymous
Where did you hear that SAP is becoming cheaper than APPS?
Basically both SAP and Oracle APPS are expensive. And that is the bottomline.
Thank you Anil for your excellent explanation and reply. I really thank you for your efforts in shaping up careers for inexperienced persons like me.
As you had adviced, I shall concentrate on switching to APPS domain first (using my knowledge in Forms, Reports and Pl/Sql). This should help me to work in Rel 11 and Rel 12 (to some extent) initially.
Parallelly within the next 2 or 3 years, I will try and learn Java/J2EE,
Web Services with BPEL,
ADF with Faces [JSF],
XML Publisher, XML/CSS/XSL/JavaScript
so that I can work on Fusion too.
Can you please advice whether this is a proper plan or not for my future ? Also am I required to learn all the technologies stated above (as they are all new to me) ?
Thank you Anil for your excellent explanation and reply. I really thank you for your efforts in shaping up careers for inexperienced persons like me.
As you had adviced, I shall concentrate on switching to APPS domain first (using my knowledge in Forms, Reports and Pl/Sql). This should help me to work in Rel 11 and Rel 12 (to some extent) initially.
Parallelly within the next 2 or 3 years, I will try and learn Java/J2EE,
Web Services with BPEL,
ADF with Faces [JSF],
XML Publisher, XML/CSS/XSL/JavaScript
so that I can work on Fusion too.
Can you please advice whether this is a proper plan or not for my future ? Also am I required to learn all the technologies stated above (as they are all new to me) ?
Hi Anonymous,
The plan is good. The preparation of Fusion must happen in the background.
1. Understand Object Oriented Programming fundamentals.
2. Just learn the basics of java by writing basic/small java programs.Get the concept of packages and CLASSPATH clear in Java.
3. Develop a web service. This is nothing but writing of pl/sql or java methods which then get published as a webservice.
4. Consume a web service. This tooo is straightforward, as WSDL URL is generated when you build a webservice. The tools these days like Eclipse and jDev will automatically generate the code for you from a WSDL. Once the code has been generated, consuming(invoking) is nothing but calling its methods/procedures just like any other program.
Hi Anil,
I am Dinesh here and I was the anonymous user who had posted the last comment (Plan to get technically prepared for Fusion).
Wow, this blog is becoming more and more inspiring and interesting. Anil, please keep on giving us more technical suggestions/advices like this, so that it will benefit many existng/aspiring APPS professionals.
My best wishes to you and a very very happy new year to you.
-Dinesh
hi anil
what i wana ask u is in future more job oppurtunities will be in SAP or oracle APPS...........(not which is more cheaper)
i am having good knowledge of pl-sql
Hi Anil,
I recently Joined Caritor as a Functional Consultant for OracleApps HRMS. I come from a non-technical background. Previously was a fulltime HR EXecutive. I am currentlyundergoingTraining on oracleApps.
Please let me know any reference sites or material which will help me in easy understanding of the system. Please replyto me on aparnawali@yahoo.co.in.
Thanks & regards,
Aparna
Hi
Anil i really liked your articles as well as u reply the questions.I want to ask you that i am new for oracle and i did OCA so i did SQL and PL/SQL...but still scared for coding and all and want to go for oracle apps can u show me the right path .
Thanks
Shell
I have sent an email to you Aparna.
Thanks,
Anil
Hi Anil,
I am having 1.5 years of exp as PL/SQL develper and 6+ months of exp as Apps Technical consultant(FINANCE). I have basically worked on reports customization.
But now planning to go for CWA.
Will this help me to transfer to functional side.
Or only Oracle Apps functional course from an institute would be sufficient.
But most of the companies ask for CA/CWA/MBA while taking them as functional consultant.
Hello
CA/CWA/MB/CFA/ will all help you get into functional role.
But keep in mind, to be a functional person, you must understand end to end functionality of respective Oracle Apps Modules
Thanks
Anil Passi
Hi praveen,
I belive that you have a wonderful knowladge in oracle apps.I am intrested in oracle apps,i am good in accounts, and i am a B.com graduate, can you please advise me how to go about it.financials AP, AR GL FA , purchasing , i supplier
Dear Mr.Anil,
I am having 6 plus years of experience in HR.
Already i have learnt java, oracle, vb and D2K.
But now i am in dilamo which one is fine for me to learn Oracle apps HR or SAP HR of People soft hrms. (functional or technical)please guide me. what should be my next step. I would like to switch to IT - I am a non technical MBA HR.
Thanks
Krishnamoorthy
Hi Shiva
You should take up whatever HRMS opportunity i.e. Oracle or SAP, regardless of that being functional or technical. Given that you need a break, you must try for both, with 2 versions of your CV, one empasizing your technical+HRMS strength, second emphasizing your Functional Experience+MBA.
But the key is to learn how Payroll works.
I advice you against venturing into peoplesoft
Thanks
Anil Passi
Dear Mr.Anil,
I am having 6 plus years of experience in HR.
Already i have learnt java, oracle, vb and D2K.
But now i am in dilamo which one is fine for me to learn Oracle apps HR or SAP HR of People soft hrms. (functional or technical)please guide me. what should be my next step. I would like to switch to IT - I am a non technical MBA HR.
Thanks
Krishnamoorthy
Hi Anil,
This write up is really very informative. But you haven't discussed the responsibilities and role of functional consultants.
I'm a software engineer working as Apps technical consulatnt for last 3 yrs with MCA background.
In the last 3 yrs, I have developed decent functional knowledge in modules like Purchasing, Inv, WIP, BOM, AP. Also I have technical expertise of table structures related to these modules. My technical knowledge includes forms, reports, pl/sql, sql
1. Please suggest me, if it would be fruitful to shift to functional consultancy ?
2. which is a better paying jod, technical to functional ?
3. I have seen some ads with openings for techno-functional consultant, what is their responsibility?
Thanks in advance,
Bipin
Answer to your qns:-
1. If you don't mind doing lots of meetings with users and doing plenty of documentation and if you understand Oracle ERP end to end processes well, then take up functional role.
2. which is a better paying ?
In my current project I am doign technical work [though I worked on functional role too in past]. As per my experience, they pay very similar salaries. Hence that shouldn't be the criteria. However i do not know if in India Functional are paid more. but surely techies earn as much as functional in UK [more in certain cases]
3. I have seen some ads with openings for techno-functional consultant, what is their responsibility?
Ans: It means you have the responsibility of finding solution to business gaps in Oracle Apps functionality. You will do the design and also the development. Basically end to end delivery from analysis to development to testing to goLive
thanks
anil passi
Thanks Anil for your excellent reply. I'm still confused, I agree that I know very few Oracle end-to-end processes and don't have much knowledge of real business processes.
But my confusion is that I don't want to do coding for my remaining life, and I think at a later stage switching from tech to functional can be relatively difficult.
Can you please explain whats the role of a techical consultant with 6-10 yrs of exp ?
Thanks,
Bipin
Hi Anil
I have been working as a Superuser for HRMS for almost 4 years now (with 2 different companies). I have good understanding of Core HR, Recruitment. However, now I want to shift to an IT company into an implementation role. I tired checking the market but I think I might face problem in getting in, due to 2 reasons :
1. Though by now I have good understanding of the HR Processes like, recruitment,transfers, exits, bit of Payroll but do not have a MBA HR degree. I am just a commerce graduate.
2. I only have experience on Core HR, however lot of companies ask for SSHR, I-rec or Payroll along with Core HR.
Please suggest how should I deal with this?
Thanks a lot!
Hi Anil,
Thank you for the information provided.
I am an Oracle PL/SQL , D2K professional , having an experience of 5 years.
I am williing to switch to Oracle Applications Technical Consulting.
I know of KPIT cummins , which recruits Oracle D2K professionals and trains them in Oracle Applications.
Can you please let me know , if there are any other companies , doing the same ( recruiting D2K professionals and training them in Oracle Applications).
Thanks in advance.
Waiting for your reply.
Regards ,
Muthu.
Hi Anil,
Could you kindly suggest me Oracle functional url/ Link where i can learn more of cycle flow of the modules. If there are Navigation/screen shot that would be more helpful aswell.
Thanks alot
Hi Anil,
This site is really useful thanks alot for your efforts.I have been looking for oracle apps site or material if possible with screen shot for functional consultant.
This will help me in easy understanding .You can mail me the link at gems_sa@yahoo.com.
Thanks alot
Muskan
Hi Muskan
Please find the link below
http://oracle.anilpassi.com/oracle-technical-and-apps-functional-demo.html
thanks
anil
hi anil,
your blog is realy informative.
1)i am a B.E graduate.i have just started as oracle apps 11i developer(tech) having good knowledge of (sql,pl/sql,forms 9i,reports9i).i saw that there will be no forms and reports in fusion.how can i mange it ?for making my presence extended.
2)gendraly oracle apps tech consultant will learn for functional side to be tehno-functional after few years.but i think for combination of ORACLE APPS TECH CONSULTANT+APPS DBA(for which i have to start now..).as i know nothing on functional side.effective.please coment on this please.is that techno- functional coming from a non functional side are effective.
3)you have said apps technical is shifting towards functional.so,will apps techis will have Challenging work or....?
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for your effort.
I have taken 'Oracle Apps - Finance Functional' course in 2003 and since then i attended more than 20 interviews but i am not selected.
My main problem is lack of practical 'Implementation of Oracle Apps' knowledge.
So please guide me in this aspect (i.e. i would like to work on 'oracle implementation' projects at free of cost.) inorder to get an opportunity on oracle apps (functional).
My Qualifications : B.com,PGDCA,MCA
present location : Hyderabad
Other skills : COBOL,VB
With Thanks
Gopal Reddy N
n_gopalreddy@yahoo.com
HI Anil,
I have found these answers very helpful.
I have a background of commerce and
working as a HR since 2 years.
I would like to pursue Oracle Apps Functional training.
Can you mail me the link for the material for Oracle Apps Functional to mbkatakam@hotmail.com.
Thanks in advance.
Madhu
Please use the link below
http://oracle.anilpassi.com/oracle-technical-and-apps-functional-demo.html
Hi,
Thanks so much...This is so helpful. You are doing a great job. I have a question. I am an mba student and i have been working parttime in the financial office of my university. I have been using the oracle financial apps to create POs and Payment Requests. Does this mean that i have been working on the functional side? or am I simply a user of the system? I am sorry if this is a stupid question to ask but I really need to know about it. I am planning to go for oracle financials financial consultant training. Do you think my current experience is going to be helpful?
Thanks.
I wouldn't say that your current role is that of a Functional Consultant, but your exposure to the product will help you become one. Yes, you will need some kind of functional training, so that you learn how to configure those modules and more importantly to understand the architecture/structure of Oracle Financials ERP system.
hi anil,
im oracle apps functional consultant.
I need to talk to you can I get your contact details?
sorry for not giving my contact.
my contact is
+91 98929 76751
pls email me on passi dot anil @ gmail dot com
leave your number, i can call you back too
cheers
anil
thanks a lot for the info Anil. I have another question :-) Which do you think is better? Oracle Financials or SAP Finance? In the longterm, which do u think has more growth prospects? I am in the US and every body is suggesting me to go for SAP finance. What do you think?
Both SAP and Oracle are market leaders. So either of those will help you build a good career. Hence you should pick the stream in which you will find it easier to make a breakthrough for your first job.
having said that, SAP brand is more popular for manufacturing/Supply chain whereas Oracle is more popular for Financials and HRMS.
I repeat, both are good products with good career prospects. But my preference will be Oracle for Financials and SAP for manufacturing.
If this confuses you, then I suggest simply go by market dynamics. Call up a couple of recruitment agencies if you know some in your area, and ask which ERP is generating bigger demand in job market and which one offers better salaries/prospects.
Good luck. I may not have fully given you the answer you wanted, but then there is no single right answer to this question.
Cheers
Anil
Hello Anil,
I appreciate your effort for providing useful inputs to people at large who are confused in carrier selection and I am no different, I am working as a Superuser for HRMS module for almost 2 years now. I have good understanding of payroll administration and Core HR, also I have done my MBA with secondary specialization in HR. However, now I want to shift to an implementation role, I am currently doing a fast track course in HRMS however the institute where I am learning this, are insisting that I should also learn technical part as it would be handy but I do not have any technical background
Pls advice me on the following
1) should I restrict to HRMS functional role
2) if not fully technical guide on the basics of technical which I should learn and would be useful for my carrier
3) and lastly please let me know any reference sites or material which will help me in easy understanding of the system particularly fast formula's.
you can reply to me on my personal mail id Prabhuraaj@yahoo.com
awaiting your response
Thanks
Raaj
Hi Anil,
I am 2005 B.Tech(cs) pass out.I have six months exp in .NET from DEC 2005 to June 2006.But I am not very confident in .NET.After thet i have had a gap of 8 months due to personal reasons.Now i want to go for OCP certification(for ORACLE apps developer).Is it right for me to go ahead with OCP or should i go with .NET certification course keeping in mind my immediate need for a job.Also what are the job prospects after doing OCP.Plz give me a speedy reply as i am in quite a bit of dilema right now.
thanks
Rahul
It appears you are not motivated enough to work on .net, but I see a sense of motivation on OCP.
Hence go for OCP. Yes that helps in getting a job, but yet is no guarantee for getting the job either.
Always select a stream into which you can commit 100% of yourself.
Hence the issue is not whether .NET is better or OCP. The real question is where you feel comfortable and confident.
So I guess the answer is simple.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
HI Anil ,
Your site is very impressive and you are doing an amazing job .
I'am currently working as technical consultant for an MNC in India , as apps technical consultant , however i would like to explore options as a Distributions Consultant , and move to the US .
Please let me know the scope for Apps distributions consultant in US and UK .
regards,
Jyothi
For Apps disribution you should prefer moving to US, as that market is muchh bigger than in UK.
THanks,
Anil
Hi ,
Its fantastic website. Currently I work in Oracle Apps post production support.
I want to work on interfaces and conversions.
Please guide me anout how to go about.
Where should I start with ?
Regards
Hello,
Passi, How r u
really u r doing good job for many educated but confusing to select carrier path people i m one of them
i have finished my MCA in 2001 after that by many reason i could not get big job in MNC's keep on changing my path now i m at kuwait as a secratery but i having knowledge in vb,oracle mainframe technology i had a mainframe course in india but here i m try to get in Oracle application give me idea where can i get application training i m having sql plsql forms knowledge
Hello,
Passi, How r u
really u r doing good job for many educated but confusing to select carrier path people i m one of them
i have finished my MCA in 2001 after that by many reason i could not get big job in MNC's keep on changing my path now i m at kuwait as a secratery but i having knowledge in vb,oracle mainframe technology i had a mainframe course in india but here i m try to get in Oracle application give me idea where can i get application training i m having sql plsql forms knowledge
Hi Anil,
You are doing the excellent work doing for Oracle Apps.
I am in a Oracle Apps Financial GL Production Support. So i know only PLSQL/SQL Changes,Oracle apps Naviagtions and some Enhancements.
But now i want to move to Oracle Apps Financial GL Development project.
1)Can you please guide me what r the things i must have to learn to enter into the development projects?
2)After going into the development project what i need to learn to face Fusion. whether we may lose our jobs after FUSION implementation? or we need to learn sme other things to be in a industry.
Please answer for the above questions.
Thanks a lot.
Regards
Srinivassan
hai Anil,
I'm pavan from India. I need ur help.I completed OCP certification in Forms Developer Track. Now I want to learn Oracle Apps11.5.10.2 but I'don't have any material or books to prepare. Can u plz send any material to my mail ID(pavansiree.m@gmail.com) if you had.
Thanks & Regards,
Pavan
Hello Anil,
I m a MCA graduate I am in confusion to select which is more demanded Oracle Application or Mainframe, which will use to get job easy, which will give more salary pls I want earlier response
Thank u Mr.Anil
Mainframes are dying, if not already dead.
Join the Oracle Apps Army
Thanks
Anil
Hello Anil,
I m the guy asked u about mainframe ok I decided to join in Oracle Apps Army, then I know sql, Pl/sql but not much forms and report I m learning no problem then I can learn apps also from u r Blog but I want to practice can u advise any online site is there to practice application pls
Thank u
Just google on solution beacon you will find a hosted Oracle Apps site where you can practice the functionality.
Dont worry about forms or reports, these are quite simple tools
Hello Anil,
Muba again i tried in Solutionbeacon i could not find how to practice Apps pls let me know how then i m here at kuwait KNPC here they r using a system MAXIMO like ERP do u know about MAXIMO can we get fuctional knowledge from that (HRMS)pls Giva a reply
Excellent Blog mr.Anil...
I really appricate your support to everybody..Pretty good i will suggest to my friends go through this..
Hello Anil,
i m Muba Again can i become a oracle HRMS consultant(Tech) with u r article only or need any other reference book for that reply pls
Anil Again me Muba
what is end to end implementation
in oracle apllication particularly give me in HRMS reply pls
I am a java developer. I have also worked on pl/sql. Now I am getting opportunity in working Oracle apps finance. but i am not sure whether it will be good move or not. I will be part of production support for oracle apps. It will be like on job training. Please let me know if it will help me...
Hi Anil,
Thanks for such useful information but by reading your below pro for functional consultant what i feel after reviewing structure of Oracle e business suite r 12.technology can change business processes mapping with system
"
Pros of choosing a Functional path
1. Legislations and business rules do not change as often as does the technology changes.
Hence your knowledge can be carried forward from one version of Application to another."
Hello friends ,
Am an MBA(Finance&Marketing), passout 2006, i want to know the Best Oracle Course for my field , its future, and contacts of good institutions if any.
regards
prabhu
Well there are many institutes, but the best one is the one that you are referred to by the word of mouth.
I am slightly out of touch with training institutions in India, hence I can't ascertain which one is the best.
Given your MBA Background:-
1. Take up a course that emphasizes overall architecture and basic componennts of Oracle Apps.
2. Take training in GL, as that is the foundation for most other modules.
3. Practice all the remainder modules yourself using setup manuals
Thanks
Anil
hello anil,how are you .
this is saurabh here once again.anil i want to discuss something with you ,actually i m also working as a freelancer side by side and currently i got a project in oracle wireless application server .thru which we can send sms ,bulk sms and tht will be one way.could you plz tell me what are the things i require to do this kind of project .as i m not very much familiar with this technology.if you can give me ur contact no .so i can call you and discuss with you ,coz i m having more projects also .may be we can work together. if you are interested in this and if u dont mind . Even you can also call em to my cell no .
thankx & best regards
saurabh srivastava
bangalore
09986191020
Hi,
If possible can any one help me out.I work for one of the MNC in india. I have worked as techy(SQL server developer for one year) and after that for one and half year i worked as functional consultant for implementation of Learning Management systesms,Library services etc.Now iam into Oracle Apps HRMS training as i opted this coz iam doing my MBA in HR.SO can any one guide me to which side i can move(Functional or Technical)???
Thank you
Hi Anil,
Firstly, I appreciate u r work....It provides lots of knowledge for an entry level apps candidate like me. I need a suggestion..since I am a manufaturing engineer...recently moved to apps...doing some technical stuff......but i really want to get into functional side.....whats the best approach to atleast get a good hold on some modules in apps......tried to follow pdf's provided by oracle...but my real concern is where can I find some real time problems so that it becomes easier to understand...Please help me thru this...
Kotha
Hi Kotha
To find the real time problems, the best approach is to have a look at Metalink Bug database.
Thanks
Anil
Hi,
I am prasad i am a M.Sc post graduate in computer science i am in BPO side at present i am interested in ORacle HRMS side is it possible to get on easily becz i am far from the programming side i am total in Recruting side since 2 years, Pls can u help what are the books to follow and any ebooks for online training.
Hi Anil
I joined IBM. And I am fresher. I have done MCA in 2006.Now i working on oracle apps (sales,services,CRM) modules. So plz suggest me which module is good out of these. And also suugest me that which one is good functional consultant or technical consultan.If i will chose consultant side then after that i can switch functional consultant geeting some experience......
Plz suggest me
Thanks
Hari Ram
Hi Anil,
Excellent blog. Thanks for your effort.Very useful and informative.
I have done my MBA and working as a techno-functional consultant. Till now I have been working on customized ERP's and now I would like to shift my focus to Oracle Apps 11i. So my question is if I learn Oracle now, would I be considered as a fresher while applying for jobs, inspite of having domain experience in Sales and Purchasing modules.
And also I haven't done any implemention.I have been working at customization and support side. So can I pursue my career as an Oracle apps functional consultant?
Thanks
Latha
Hi Anil,
Excellent blog.Very useful and informative.Thanks for all your efforts.
I have done my MBA and working as a techno-functional consultant.Till now I have been working in customized ERP's and now I would like to shift my focus to Oracle Apps.But my question is if I learn Oracle Apps and start applying for jobs, would I be considered as a fresher, inspite of having domain experience in Sales and Purchasing modules.
Also I haven't done any implementations.I have been working at customization and support side. So I would like to know whether I can pursue my career as a Functional consultant in Oracle Apps?
Thanks
Bindu
Hi Anil,
Morning.
I am technical consulatnt working on apps 12i.
I am new to xml publisher need to develop the xml reports using xml publisher.
worrying alot and struggling for not getting exact flow.
task is to develop a sample reportusing xml publisher.
can u pls guide me
1.step by step flow with screen shots with simple example so that i don't get confusion and get clarity.
I am very thankful to u in advance.
looking out for immedaite reply if finds time
so that i can discharge my work
Thx
Madhavi
Superb thread for starters...
Excellent job Anil. Apprecaite your to-the-point easy-to-understand articles here.
Cheers,
Bhavesh
Hi Bindu Latha
Indeed, you may assume yourself being a fresher in Oracle Apps.
But you will catchup things fairly quickly.
My message to everyone is that YES FUNCTIONAL BACKGROUND HELPS FOR SURE, but, the most important thing is to have knowledge of the specific ERP system itself, to know its capabilities , to know things a specific ERP system can do or can't do.
But given your background, once started on apps, it should be quite easy for you to succeed in Oracle Apps
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
I need a career advice from you. I am an MBA (Finance & Systems) 2005 passout. I worked for 6 months as a end user on oracle apps, but left it as many people said implementation experience is only considered. After that I learned oracle Financial modules, implementation methdologies, document preparation etc under a real time consultant's supervision. I tried alot to enter as a entry level person in any company, but I hardly find companies taking entry level people in functional in India. After almost 1 and half year I understood this.
Though I am having good understanding of the product my inexperience and career gap has become a question mark for me.
What shall I do at this point of time, can you just give me an advice?
I can furnish any details required. Iam glad if u guide me in this.
My mail id is gssubhash@gmail.com.
Regards
subhash
Hi Subhash
Until you find some other job , please stick to this company, at least you are getting some experience.
But please leave them as soon as you find a job in oracle apps or sap or some other good job. I am not happy to hear that your employer is exploiting your situtation, by making you work without any salary
Good luck, don't worry, you will see through this time, just keep working hard and learning as much as possible.
Anil
Hi Anil,
I am 2 yrs exp consultant.
I worked for 1+ years as a technical consultant for financials. Now (after shifted to another company) i am working on Oracle Portal and bit on JSR-168 based portlets and more of support job i have now.
Now my neighbouring team is working on Identity Management and is finding very good oppurtunity in the Market.
So for me, is it significant to continue in Apps further or migrate to Identity Management (SSO,OID, OIM,etc). In Apps i can rate myself to skill of 2/5 and dont have much knowledge of functional aspects.
(One more thing is for my previous apps exp i dont have experience letter of the employer as i faced some prob during my relieving process).
Please do assist me to progress (Apps or IM).
Thanks in advance.
Pramod
Hi Anil
First of all i would like to congratulate u for all your efforts.It's an Excellent site
Anil , i am new to Oracle Apps
I've previous Tech Exp , i've worked on Java, Oracle etc. however i was out of touch for 3 years and finally i did a course on Oracle Apps and fortunately i managed to get a Job as Functional analyst(Support role) .
I'll be working on Supply chain module
So i want to knowwhat excatly is the role of Functional analyst specially Supporting module
and if u can pls send me material or some stuff to read on Supply chain . That will be great help
Once again , i thanku very much
as this site is really very help ful as i got to know more on Oracle apps
My Email is rinkse@yahoo.com
Hi Rinksey
I am glad that you are starting with the Support role, as Support role :-
1. Helps you build a rapport with businness users
2. helps you to learn day to day issues faced by users
3. Gives you insight into different business paradigms
4. Enhances your troubleshooting skills etc
5. Helps you understand various aspects of the business that are usually unknown to techies.
I can go on writing the benefits of working in a support role.
Your past technical experience will also help you troubleshoot the issues quickly.
Working in support analyst role will also put you in a very good position to become an implementation consultant in future.
So its a a good move, for which I wish you all the best
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Hi anil
This is rinksey !! Thank u very much for replying !
Anil as i mentioned that i 'm going to be working on Supply
chain and i am not able to find any traing material or link on Supply chain . If u can Please send me some thing , it would be really appreciated ..
My Email :rinkse@yahoo.com
Thanks Once again
Hi anil,
I am deepak working with Accenture ,India as a testing resource. i am not finding Testing as a very interesting option for me and thus wanna move for a technology change.
can u guide me with which i should proceed : SAP or Oracle Apps.
Which will be good to persue carrier with.
(I am interested in technical part)
Thanx,
deepak
Hi Anil,
Initially I worked in core oracle (sql, PL/SQL) and later was assinged to a datamigration project in Oracle apps where in i got the flavor of apps. Have worked around 1 year in data migration across mfg modules. I want to develop my career in oracle apps, but as I haven't worked on Forms and reports please guide me if i can take a training in Oracle Forms and reports or rather take some training for fusion technology. If so let me know what all needs to be learnt.
regards,
prabhu
Hi Anil
I am Harini from UK, I would like to learn Oracle Apps functional in the stream of HRM. How much do you think is the career opportunities available for a fresher in this field of HRM in UK. Do you have any idea of the best training institutes in UK for Oracle Apps functional...
Thanks and Regards
Harini
Check this out .. an Oracle SCM techno-functional guide..
http://www.confluentminds.com/Trainings/SCM/index.html
Hi Anil,
I have 5 years of IT experience of which 3.5 are in PL-SQL and Oracle Application(technical). Recently I have switched into consulting track of Oracle Apps. Very confused whether I should continue in consulting as everyone else is doing or should I go back to technical.
Going back to technical means constantly learning new stuff (which I love to do). Functional on the other hand is mundane but preferred by many of my friends as they are getting married and getting "settled"
Please advice.
Vikas.
Hi Vikas
Being a technical person does not mean that your life will be unsettled.
It appears that you have passion for technology, hence you must carry on with your technical stream of work.
To succeed in life, it is very important to do things that are close to your heart.
Thanks
Anil Passi
hi,
this is vardhan.presently i am under going Oracle apps Technical Training.but at this moment i hav found that there is no openings for freshers..as wel as 1+exp persons..i am btech 2006 pass out.now i hav ful of confusion wheather i hav to stay in oracle or shift to another side.so plsss guide me in which path i need to go .
hi anil,
this is subhash completed my btech in 2006.presently i am going Oracle apps Technical training.but there is a no openings for freshers&1+exp persons.now i hav ful of confusion weather i hav to stay in Oracle field or shift to another field.plsss guide me on this...
waiting for u r replyy
Hi Subhash
Try to stick to Oracle Apps, but expand your knowledge into java, xml, bpel, esb, adf
These are going to be the hot topics in 2 years timeframe
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
Your blogs are very informative..
I have been working on Oracle Apps for last 2 years now as a support analyst and primarily into the applications technology group-Workflow,xml gateway, sysadmin, concurrent processing and off late into BPEL, webservices and Application integration architecture stuff....well I wanted to make a move to the Consulting side very soon(Apps techincal consultants) and wnated to prepare myslef for the role as I presume it will be a lot different from my current work which mostly involves troubleshooting....
so my questions are can I get some insight into how to get more info and what to prepare...do i need to learn some programming stuff...what all things i should cover....
Thanks
Subh
Hi Anil,
I am quite experienced in the field of IT industry. I hav around 12 yrs of experience worked on various platforms. But my main platform is oracle where i have worked on PL/SQL Oracle reports, PRO-C on Oracle 8i and above. I have a good knowledge of Oracle DBA part as well. I have around 2 yrs of experince in Oracle Manufacturing consultant involved in the support activities. But now i am working as a PL in a banking domain. I would like to switch over to ERP probably as a technical consultant, or an Oracle APPS DBA.
In case of becoming an an Oracle APPS DBA what are things I need to concentrate. Please suggest.
Hi Anil,
I am currently working on Oracle Portal support since 1 yr(Fusion Middleware tech. stack) and had previous of 1 yrs experience in EBS-Financials implementation.
Currently in my team i have Identity Management (Oracle Access Manager and Oracle Identity Manager) being worked on and i have equal oppurtunity to get into IM realm and Apps is far to my reach in my current team.
I would request to please guide me whether to continue in Apps (as i had worked before for 1+ yrs) or to go in Identity Management as i can directly learn from my team mates (and market sounds good on IM technology also).
Also i am not proficient in Identity Management except basics of OID and SSO and i am from Comp Science background and don't know much on Apps functional aspects and Business.
Pls guide me on this decision.
Hi Anil,
I am currently working on Oracle Portal support since 1 yr(Fusion Middleware tech. stack) and had previous of 1 yrs experience in EBS-Financials implementation.
Currently in my team i have Identity Management (Oracle Access Manager and Oracle Identity Manager) being worked on and i have equal oppurtunity to get into IM realm and Apps is far to my reach in my current team.
I would request to please guide me whether to continue in Apps (as i had worked before for 1+ yrs) or to go in Identity Management as i can directly learn from my team mates (and market sounds good on IM technology also).
Also i am not proficient in Identity Management except basics of OID and SSO and i am from Comp Science background and don't know much on Apps functional aspects and Business.
Pls guide me on this decision.
Hi Anil,
I am currently working on Oracle Portal support since 1 yr(Fusion Middleware tech. stack) and had previous of 1 yrs experience in EBS-Financials implementation.
Currently in my team i have Identity Management (Oracle Access Manager and Oracle Identity Manager) being worked on and i have equal oppurtunity to get into IM realm and Apps is far to my reach in my current team.
I would request to please guide me whether to continue in Apps (as i had worked before for 1+ yrs) or to go in Identity Management as i can directly learn from my team mates (and market sounds good on IM technology also).
Also i am not proficient in Identity Management except basics of OID and SSO and i am from Comp Science background and don't know much on Apps functional aspects and Business.
Pls guide me on this decision.
Hi Anil,
I am currently working on Oracle Portal support since 1 yr(Fusion Middleware tech. stack) and had previous of 1 yrs experience in EBS-Financials implementation.
Currently in my team i have Identity Management (Oracle Access Manager and Oracle Identity Manager) being worked on and i have equal oppurtunity to get into IM realm and Apps is far to my reach in my current team.
I would request to please guide me whether to continue in Apps (as i had worked before for 1+ yrs) or to go in Identity Management as i can directly learn from my team mates (and market sounds good on IM technology also).
Also i am not proficient in Identity Management except basics of OID and SSO and i am from Comp Science background and don't know much on Apps functional aspects and Business.
Pls guide me on this decision.
Hey Pramod
Dont stick around with APPS if you get a chance to move into SOA, IM etc.
These aer the upcoming technologies. You can always come back to APPS later, by which time it will be named Fusion
Thanks
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
Thanks for your valuable assistance.
Please assist me on the possibility of coming back to Oracle Fusion in a later stage (after working in IM for next 2 yrs) as a technical consultant as i will have lost around (say) 4 yrs of exp without any implementation background of EBS. Will it affect me in a later stage to come back to Apps(Fusion), as i will just only be having around 1+ yrs of starting apps implementation experience, is tech consultants for Fusion taken on implementation basis in such cases?
And is onsite requirements of Apps in US/UK is good?
Pls advise me in the regard as i depend on your valuable suggestion coz you have worked on both the technologies.
Hi anil
i appreciate your work, i am new to oracle application(functional), do you recommed any books or any training, which is good for beginers
Thanks
anil m
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for assistance.
Regarding my previous post, i would like to request on to know whether i can still continue on Oracle Fusion later as tech consultant after working in IM(OIM and OAM) for say next 2-3 years, as i will not be having any implementation experience for around 4 yrs inbetween (2 yrs now in Portal and 2 yrs later in IM) with only a background of 1 yrs of EBS implementation experience.
Thank you very much for the assistance. i would be waiting for your suggestion for my decision.
Thank You very much
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for assistance.
Regarding my previous post, i would like to request on to know whether i can still continue on Oracle Fusion later as tech consultant after working in IM(OIM and OAM) for say next 2-3 years, as i will not be having any implementation experience for around 4 yrs inbetween (2 yrs now in Portal and 2 yrs later in IM) with only a background of 1 yrs of EBS implementation experience.
Thank you very much for the assistance. i would be waiting for your suggestion for my decision.
Thank You very much,
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for assistance.
Regarding my previous post, i would like to request on to know whether i can still continue on Oracle Fusion later as tech consultant after working in IM(OIM and OAM) for say next 2-3 years, as i will not be having any implementation experience for around 4 yrs inbetween (2 yrs now in Portal and 2 yrs later in IM) with only a background of 1 yrs of EBS implementation experience.
Thank you very much for the assistance. i would be waiting for your suggestion for my decision.
Thank You very much
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for assistance.
Regarding my previous post, i would like to request on to know whether i can still continue on Oracle Fusion later as tech consultant after working in IM(OIM and OAM) for say next 2-3 years, as i will not be having any implementation experience for around 4 yrs inbetween (2 yrs now in Portal and 2 yrs later in IM) with only a background of 1 yrs of EBS implementation experience.
Thank you very much for the assistance. i would be waiting for your suggestion for my decision.
Thank You very much
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot for assistance.
Regarding my previous post, i would like to request on to know whether i can still continue on Oracle Fusion later as tech consultant after working in IM(OIM and OAM) for say next 2-3 years, as i will not be having any implementation experience for around 4 yrs inbetween (2 yrs now in Portal and 2 yrs later in IM) with only a background of 1 yrs of EBS implementation experience.
Thank you very much for the assistance. i would be waiting for your suggestion for my decision.
Thank You very much
Given that you have a fair understanding of current eBusiness Suite system, I do not foresee a problem getting back into EBS-Fusion.
Identity Management is a niche area with great rewards, as there aren't many specialists in this arena.
I think you should take that opportunity.
Make sure that you also keep an eye on SOA, BI & ADF in parallel, as these technologies will be the core of Fusion Apps.
There aren't many projects ongoing that cover these tech-stacks, hence use this time in interim to get specialized in IM
Cheers
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
I am currently working on oracle for the past one year.I hold a masters in logistics/scm from UK.
My goal is to become an Oracle SCM OM functional consultant.
Could you suggest me the structure/approach to master the this module.
Do you suggest me to go through GL and then work on OM, INV
thanks/Sumanth
Yes thats right, start with GL, and then Order Management, Inventory and Purchasing too for internal sales order and requisitions
Following that, learn receivables so that you can setup invoicing options for the sales orders.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
Thanks for the prompt reply. I am currently using study guides to understand the oracle functionality.
What would you recommend, going through User's guide or implementation guide ?
Or Do you suggest to execute the test flows do get a hold on the features/ Thanks Sumanth
Hi Anil,
Thank you very much for the valuable suggestion.
I am really gearful for the same.
Thank You,
Pramod
Hi Anil u r site is simply superb
u r doing great service to people in dilema
can u tell me are there any modules in oracle apps techical module or is it a single module with name aracle apps technical?
Hi Anil,
I find your web site very helpful with a lot of real life advices, which I highly apprecaite.
As a beginner in the Oracle Apps I currently face a lot of delema and fears. I finished up Oracle Apps Financial training with GL, AP, AR modules. I am technically sound and devoted more than 5 years working with Oracle databases.
Could you please guide me how to gain more confidence in the subject. I know it's hard without getting a real project done, but how to get a project when you're jr. and everybody wants at least 2-3 implemented projects. I got stuck and do not know where to go further:(
Any suggestions will be highly appreciate.
Thanks,
Toni
Hi Toni
You will find it easier finding jobs in smaller companies.
There is no formula to get your first breakthrough in apps.
However, following will help
1. Dont give up, keep trying. Make sure you are doing any kind of Oracle related job while you try for apps job in background
2. Keep reading as much as possible about apps, from blog, oracle website or metalink if you have access. I know it will be all theoritical knowledge to begin with, but believe me that will help you a long way getting through interview. Knowledge regardless of being theoritial never goes waste.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Anil,
Thank you for your prompt reply.
It sounds encouraging:) eventhough I feel so desparate:(.
Could you point some good interview sites or web resources.
Thanks,
Toni
Hi Anil,
Can you give me some AIM documents samples. I know as a functional person everyone need to know how they look like and what are they?
Thanks,
anonymous
I recently Joined genpact as a Functional Consultant for OracleApps SCM.
Previously, I was working as an SCM Executive. I am currently undergoing Training on oracleApps.
Please let me know any reference sites/material or methodology which will help me to understand the system. You can please reply me on
sumanth_reddy@hotmail.com
Hi Anil,
I recently Joined Genpact as a Functional Consultant for OracleApps SCM. Previously was a fulltime SCM Executive. I am currently undergoing training on oracleApps.
Please let me know any reference sites or material which will help me in easy understanding of the system. Please reply to me on s_chinchod@yahoo.com
Thanks
Hello anil,
This is mohamed.I have been working as techno-functional consultant in Oracle based ERP solution(1 year exp).I have knowledge in Sql,pl/sql,forms 6i,reports 6i and Discoverer 10 G.I want to become a Oracle apps Consultant.I am going to persue Orcle Cer.Could u plese suggest me.
Thanks regards
Mohamed
Hi Anil,
I am a fresher now and I am interested in becoming a techno-functional consultant in future.Can you suggest me whether it can be possible or not? I did MCA in fulltime and persuing MBA(Finance)in DLP.I was going through your site and find this to be very helpful.
Thanks
Sharmistha
Hi Anil,
I am a fresher now and I am interested in becoming a techno-functional consultant in future.Can you suggest me whether it can be possible or not? I did MCA in fulltime and persuing MBA(Finance)in DLP.I was going through your site and find this to be very helpful.
Thanks
Sharmistha
Hi Anil,
I am a fresher now and I am interested in becoming a techno-functional consultant in future.Can you suggest me whether it can be possible or not? I did MCA in fulltime and persuing MBA(Finance)in DLP.I was going through your site and find this to be very helpful.
Thanks
Sharmistha
Hi Anil,
I am a fresher now and I am interested in becoming a techno-functional consultant in future.Can you suggest me whether it can be possible or not? I did MCA in fulltime and persuing MBA(Finance)in DLP.I was going through your site and find this to be very helpful.
Thanks
Sharmistha
Hi Anil,
I am a fresher now and I am interested in becoming a techno-functional consultant in future.Can you suggest me whether it can be possible or not? I did MCA in fulltime and persuing MBA(Finance)in DLP.I was going through your site and find this to be very helpful.
Thanks
Sharmistha
Hi Anil,
I am an engineer in Instrumentatin. I have a 7 years of work experience in diff. diff. fields (not countable just an adjustment after marriage)
Now i am in gurgaon and finding difficulty in getting job in my field. (as a project co-ordinator)
So, somebody suggested me to do Oracle APPS-DBA. I don't have any idea about future prospects for this course. I am 36 years old and now don't like to try many ways. If i will decide something and put some money in it , it should work for me. It is like is par ya us par. Can u guide me on this if i should pursue in IT field or it will help me to start my carreer as a new?
U can e-mail me on anaghapawar@hotmail.com
Thanks in advance.
Anagha
Hi Anil,
I am a APPS DBA with 3+ years of exp. I came from CIVIL ENGG background. To be honest I have chose DBA carrer by chance but not by choice.Now i want to shift to Oracle Functaional side. Need your advice regarding the same.
(1)Should I take any training in Oracle Functaional side
(2) In which modules do i Need to concentarte as I am novice in this area.
(3) Can i get any material which gives basic idea about the functional specs.
Regards,
Sravan
Hi Anil,
Can u please mail me with ur suggessions.
Regards,
sravan
sravan.says.hai@gmail.com
Hi Anil,
Can u please mail me with ur suggessions.
Regards,
sravan
sravan.says.hai@gmail.com
Hi Anil...
Many appreciations for the blog you running regrding information in Oracle Apps. I am Sameem, recently m working as a senior SQA Engineer and have 2 yrs of experience. I am eagerly want to be in Oracle consultancy (techno functional) to persue it as a career not just as a job. For this I think to start OCP training as no other specific training are there in Pakistan to get into the field. Please guide me to start OCP or not or how to get into the field as I am passionately thinking that my creativity and craft for presentation will be axcel in this field. Is there any stuff on net to start polishing myself on Oracle Apps specific to consultancy (Techno-Functional)
Kindly reply to my query, your response will be highly appreciated.
Hi Anil,
your site is very informative, i really appreciate your patience in answering each and every question.
I am from a manufacturing background and wants to get into Oracle apps(manf and Dist) modules, I want to get into supply chain planning later on. I can make out from your previous ans that Oracle Apps functional is going to have a good market, what more can i do to enhance my career at the same time to stay in market.Can you please give me any advice/ material in this regard,my mail id preethi.goli@gmail.com.
Thank u so much. your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Preeti
hello anil,
I am preethi, i have posted my question here, but unknowingly gave wrong id, pls consider this ID preethi.goli@gmail.com
thank you so much for your help
Hi Anil,
Good Job. Keep it up. It is very inspiring to go through your blog.
Coming to my personal situation, I had my bachelors in commerce, worked in a government bank in India for 14 years and came to US in 99. Since then I was working as Oracle consultant, of course, with gaps in between. I have my OCP in developer track. I have undergone couple of Functional courses in Financials.
Now, keeping my background and experience in view, what would you suggest? If you ask about the comfort level, I do not know the answer, but I like functional side better.
With best wishes,
-Sri
Hi Anil
First of all i really appreciate your effort in answering all the questions. your blog is really helping guys like us who are new to oracle.
well coming to my situation, i have master in mechanical, but i worked as productivity engineer in GE for sometime and know abt manufacturing and SCM. i want to go to into oracle apps functionsl(Manf&Dist). please suggest me whether i am going the right path or else suggest where when and what to start. as i am changing the field from Manufacturing to soft, i was thingking that i can take your feedback and start the new career correctly.
Hii everybody
This is very good blog that you guys are running and i would also like to seek advice and share my experiences.
I'm working as an Oracle Technical Consultant on an HR & Payroll implementation for a bank in my country.I've taken Oracle HR & Payroll training and read through the AS - IS and TO - BE process documents that my functional team develops.
How can i make transition from being an Oracle Technical Consultant to becoming an Oracle Functional Consultant.
I don't like to code much but i'm comforatable with technology configurations and support at Unix Shell script level.
Kindly advise
Fahad
Hi Anil ,
I Have more than 5+ yrs of expereince in HR Recruitment and professionally qualified MAsters in Human Resource Management ,Post Graduate Diploma in HRM and certified Brainbench in HRIS and HR Concepts (UK) and now i have joined in Oracle University on Oracle HRMS .Can u guide me what kind of job opportunities i can apply after completing this course .Pls reply to my email id hrmsbalaji@aol.in and cc to hrdbalaji@gmail.com .
Your comment is valuable for me to determine my career move
Cheers
Balaji
Hi Anil,
Your posts are such a help!
Just wanted to know from you - I am a business manager in a company which is into Oracle Apps project Implementations. My job is to get such projects for my firm.
I have a background of selling Oracle technology solutions, but not Apps. Hence, in order to better understand Oracle Apps and to be able to understand and better commnicate with my customers or prospects (who are generally techie's - CIO's and IT Mgr's), I am thinking of undergoing an Oracle Functional Consultant's training.
Do you think this is a good idea? I have to mention here that I have hardly any Finance or Accounts know-how!
Look forward to your reply. Thanks.
hi Anil..
i am b.tech guy then worked for indian railways for a period of 3 years, now hv learned oracleapps techinical and worked for company 3 months ,as i worked for railways i know the business flow i want to shift to functional can u suggest how it will be and may may i know any institutes in INDIA or in hyderabad it will be better.it will help me lot in my carrer boosting if u answer.
bye anil,
regards,bhasker reddy
hi
anil
how you are doing?
this is madhoo here.
can you explain me the difference b/t ORACLE APPS DBA & ORACLE TECHNICAL/FUNCTIONAL CONSULTANT. i'm working as recruiter so i need to know the difference to source appropriate candidates.
hi
anil
how you are doing?
this is madhoo here.
can you explain me the difference b/t ORACLE APPS DBA & ORACLE TECHNICAL/FUNCTIONAL CONSULTANT. i'm working as recruiter so i need to know the difference to source appropriate candidates.
Hi Anil,
I am totally surprised by going through this site. I was searching hard to have some one who could guide me in this Area. I've joined oracle financials and I felt alone after joining as there was no one who could guide me.
I really Appreciate your Efforts and other Contributors who are making this site very successfull.
Thankyou
hi anil...good job...very informative and very helpful......
iam uttam working on the java field for the past 1 yr..but iam an OCA certified developer....now i want to shift to oracle apps tech platform.....which one is better oracle apps tech or OA framework......how is the future for oracle apps tech.....
thanks for ur suggesstions...thanx again..
Hi Anonymous
OA Framework is a part of the Oracle Apps Tech domain itself.
Many Thanks
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
Thx first of all for ur efforts in bringing up us all an idea of Apps.
I wud like 2 ask u if Opportunities r open for fusion right now? If yes where? Or when is tat going 2 b out in the market...
Besides, wat wud b the future of Oracle Apps once Fusion steps in?
Need ur suggestions on these queries.
Also let me know abt the future of D2K facilities like Oracle Forms and Reports... I heard tat they r gonna be taken over by Java and XML; is tat true??
Thanks,
Mukunthan L
Hi Mukun,
Fusion might not be fully roled out until 2012, plus give another 3-5years by which time most clients will migrate to Fusion.
This means, Forms and Reports has another 10years left. So dont hesitate from learning those technologies.
Yes, eventually forms is replaced by ADF, and Reports by XMLP.. Hence you must learn those skills too.
There will be no Technical Fusion jobs in market for at least 2-3years. The only jobs for Fusion project right now are in Oracle Product development team, assuming they are recruiting.
Cheers
Anil
Hi Anil
My name is Biranchi
Thanks a lot for this nice blog!!!!
Need a help for my future!!!!
I am having 3+ yrs. of exp on Oracle pl/sql.I know Forms/reports a little bit but not much.I have worked in Oracle corp. on Discoverer/Html_db for 2 yrs.I want to shift to Apps Tech.
Please help me how to start up????
Hello Anil,
Dude u are doing a great job ...Ur blog is very informative ...great job dude.......
I am a graduate student[USA].i am going to get graduated by the end of this year....I am planning to take training in orcale Apps...But i have got some queries..i want u to answer them..
1) what is this techno functional Apps consultant?
I have seen ur previous answer..
I am confused to take
Either Techno-functional or
Techincal consultant...
Actually does this techno-functional have an
additional roles to the technical consultant...
I want to go for Techno-Functional ..
but ....if i take techno-functinal ...
do i miss something in the technical consulant course....
I think a techno-Functional consultant deals with the roles of
technical consultant and then regarding the Erd's and stuff........
I need ur suggestion to take which course.........
I know Fusion is coming and as said by u ....it can nearly take 5 years........
so ......great future for Appss.........
With Regards,
Raj
Dude,
Really Nice work. Here in USA I see lot of job openings for functional consultants NOT for technical. My team has 5 functional and I'm the only 1 techie.
Can you update your website with Oracle Fusion updates.
thanks
Hi Anil,
Great Stuff on this website.
I am a fresh graduate out of college and have started working as a Functional Consultant and my are of work is in Oracle Order management.
I have a degree in supply chain management but no knowledge of the Oracle eBusiness Suite. Could you please recommend me websites/books with easy to understand material.
Could you also please suggest if Order Management is a good area or if switching to a different module like Oracle Manufacturing, Procurement, ASCP etc would be better?
Thanks in advance. Great job in helping us newbies!!!
Hi Adsouza,
I do not know any good books in Oracle SCM.
Oracle OM/SCM is an exciting area to begin your career with.
In order to learn full implementation, you must also learn AR[how orders are billed], inventory [item movement/planning], PO [internal sales orders], GL [how orders are costed via inventory ]...etc
So do not restrict yourself to one single subject.
To learn, get handle to any vision instance, and try to implement the setups starting from a new GL, organization etc. Oracle Product Implementation guides can be followed religiously to achieve your learning path.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Thanks Anil,
Appreciate the quick response. I was looking at the training stuff on your website and seems like most of it is geared towards the technical side. Any websites with information about the functional side of things.
Ankush
hi,
I have a domain experience in purchasing and inventory but I have no idea of oracle apps and I am trying to pursue my career on functional side could you please give me any suggestion regarding this whether it suits me or not and what all modules I have to learn pls give me the links of oracle app functional that will be helpful to me
thanks,
Bobby.
hii anil
this is vizith kumar,am working in oracle apps 11.5.10 as developer,i handeled OM,OPM,PO,Costing modules
and i had 2 years 6months exp in them,i want to know how are the openings for oracle apps technical in UK ,Germany
pls help me out
thnks in advance
hii anil
this is vizith kumar,am working in oracle apps 11.5.10 as developer,i handeled OM,OPM,PO,Costing modules
and i had 2 years 6months exp in them,i want to know how are the openings for oracle apps technical in UK ,Germany
pls help me out
thnks in advance
vizith
HI
WELL FIRST OF ALL I WUD THANK U FOR SPREADING UR KNOWLEDGE OVER HERE.WELL COMING TO THE PT I COMPLETED MY GRAD BTECH IN COMPUTERS.I HAD UNDERGONE TRAINING IN D2K AND SIMULTANEOUSLY SQL.THEN AFTER THAT I HAD UNDERGONE ORCL FINANCIALS.THEN I SEARCHED JOBS ON DAT.AFTER THAT I HAD UNDERGONE TRAINING ON ORCL TECHNICAL.SO THE PROB HERE IS I DONT HAVE ANY REAL TIME EXP.WELL COULD U ADVICE ME WAT THE NEXT STEP I SHOULD GO FOR
Hi Arun
Good to see your enthusiasm to keep learning.
Unfortunately, first break can take time, but if you keep trying it will certainly happen.
I suggest you take up any technical job and keep learning and reading more and more about Oracle Apps Tech.
You never know which piece of knowledge can help you fetch job in the interview.
Also, keep visiting http://apps2fusion.com.
That website is full of real life practical knowledge in Oracle Applications.
Good luck, for first job in apps - patience will be the key. But keep yourself regularly updated with Oracle Apps as you never know when the opportunity will knock next.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
hi Anil...I did my Graduation in accounting..and Am a master in Computers, as well am a fresher.But am very strong in logic building as well as coding.So where should i go..in functional or tech.If i do any one from this 2..is there a good chance that i will get a job..or will fail b.cas am a fresher...PLZ ADVICE....
I am computer science engineer ,But I am not at all good in programming, I Want to learn any one module in Oracle APPS.I can manage SQL, Please advise me.
Hi Anil,
I am in a dilemma: I have 1 year experience as a MSSQL DBA and my contract ends in 2 months. I am being offered a PL.SQL developer job, for 6+ months, for a conversion project. Should I shift to that area, or stick with DBA?
Thank you very much for your advice,
Srinivas
Hi Anil,
I am in a dilemma: I have 1 year experience as a MSSQL DBA and my contract ends in 2 months. I am being offered a PL.SQL developer job, for 6+ months, for a conversion project. Should I shift to that area, or stick with DBA?
Thank you very much for your advice,
Srinivas
Hi Anil,
I have 5+ years of experience in Finance domain and i am pursuing MBA-finance. I want to switch my career to Oracle apps Functional. I have taken training on OM, AP and AR from a real time Apps Oracle apps consultant but as now i am looking for job i don't find any jobs in the market. I am very keen to make a career as Functional. Can you give me some insight how to get into a functional job? Do i have to learn more? if so, please give me some details.
Hi Anil,
I am workin in automation testing for more tan three years,Now i want to shift to Oracle Apps Technical but i am in delimna A)would it be feasible for me to swtich,B) now as fusion is being going to launch so should i go for Forms and reports or oracle jdevloper and ADF?
C) what is the future prospect for as apps consultant ,whethet i had start again as a fresher or wud be accepted as a experinced devloper.
Please help me...
Thanks in anticipation..
Regards
Hi Anil,
I am workin in automation testing for more tan three years,Now i want to shift to Oracle Apps Technical but i am in delimna A)would it be feasible for me to swtich,B) now as fusion is being going to launch so should i go for Forms and reports or oracle jdevloper and ADF?
C) what is the future prospect for as apps consultant ,whethet i had start again as a fresher or wud be accepted as a experinced devloper.
Please help me...
Thanks in anticipation..
Regards
Rinki chauhan
Hi Anil
I am really confused
my experience
1. oracle forms
oracle reports
oracle pl/sql for the past 7 years
i want to change to SAP BW as i am not getting jobs in this field
do u think its a good move
Sam
If you are getting a job in SAP, then of course- go for it.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
Can u please let me know the max number of columns in a table in Oracle?
hello anil
i recently completed my B.E.(I.T.)& going to join oracle apps training session(technical).i just want to ask u as a fresher this course is helpful for me or not.One more thing i want to clear that i have gud theoretical knowledge of pl/sql but lake of practical knowledge..
so plz tell me is it gud for my career or not
hello anil
i recently completed my B.E.(I.T.)& going to join oracle apps training session(technical).i just want to ask u as a fresher this course is helpful for me or not.One more thing i want to clear that i have gud theoretical knowledge of pl/sql but lake of practical knowledge..
so plz tell me is it gud for my career or not
Hi Anand
Of course that course will help you focus on your career
You can paste the contents/agenda here so that I can see how relevant it is for kickstarting apps career
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Thanks Anil for ur response,
the course content wht they offering are :-
below topics that will be covered in the 1.5 month course.
Modules: SQL, PL/SQL, Forms, Reports - 10days
Certified E-business suite essentials -
AOL,
System Administration -
Reports customization
API's, Interfaces
India Localization
Financials Applications Overview
Manufacturing Functional Foundation
Hi All,
Can any body explain the procedure to register the Concurrent Program from Backend?
HI
this is kumar.i have done MS in USA.btech in computers.iam a fresher,i hate to say that i dont like programming at all.iam planning to learn oracle functional side.Big question is Can i do it???????any training websites??
Of course you can do it.
More so because you have no confusion between technical or functional.
There are plenty of training institutes in India.
In addition to above, we at http://focusthread.com offer online trainings too.
thx anil for ur advise.so which modules do you think i should startoff with..with a point that this would be first in life.
hi anil,
i need small clarification from you.Currently i am working as a software engineer in .Net technology.Now i am learning oracle apps on my own interest.your blogs are so nice where i am learing more.some times i will get doubt wheather i can succced in this or not because i have good idea on oracle,pl/sql.I dont have any idea on reports forms.Can you please mail to this id with your suggesstions saritha.gummadi@gmail.com
Hi Anil,
Its nice to see your postings. Really appreciate the way its been handled.
I need a suggestion. I have experience in testing Oracle business flows like O2C,P2P etc. I have worked on SCM and Finapps modules. I am neither purely into Functional/tech. I am planning to switch my career completely into apps than testing.
I heard being functional, we need to have complete understanding of apps. Should I start technical. I have little knowledge on SQL and PL/SQL.
Could you pls suggest.
Regards,
Rahul
hi guys can anyone one guide me to take the right training center in bangalore to do the functional consultant course...i have completed my MBA with my BE background and working in an bank...
Hi Anil,
I am done with my MS in computer science.I am fresher to job Market.I decided to learn Oracle Applications and to work as Oracle Apps Technical Consultant.
So,can you please help me in this issue .From where i have to start learning oracle apps and whats the best way to learn and all such related information,links,documents,e.t.c
Thanks for your valuable help
Thanks & Rgds,
Murali
Hi,
I am B.Tech guy and have been working since 2 years as a software test engineer in a medium sized company. I would now want to settle down in Enterprise Applications. I am not good at programming. But I have got a good understanding of the software businees process, has got very good communication skills, has a proven track record of dealing diplomatically with the clients.So..considering all these which Enterprise Application should i take up and start learning.
Thanks,
Vinay
Hi Anil,
incredible job u are doing man..
my Q is , i have 2+ xpr in IT field. as a mainframe developer, unix technical support etc. But finally i landed in oracle apps AP, PO. I have been extensivley trained on it for 6 months. What would be ur suggestion for me to proceed. I know little SQL and basics of PL/SQL. As i am in a production support project now as a techno funtional consultant, i am not exposed to forms, reports dev side.
i would prefer to move away from prod support project.
what skills should i improve to become a techno-functional. What is the difference btw implemetation and developement in EBS projects.
Thanks .. Bharani
great job man ...
Hi Bharani,
You can begin learning Java and XML first, because all the technologies are moving in that direction.
Thereafter learn BI Publisher, OA Framework, ADF and SOA.
That will be enough, for next 10 to 15 years :)
Good luck,
Anil Passi
Hello,
I am in dilemma,I did engineering in IT and MBA in finance. I need to choose track now. FOr functional, I have not worked in core finance domain(bookish knowledge), though I have experience in software field for 2 years, these roles are somewhat semi-technical(proof of concept at client end) I can do well in field I choose but where will I get break more easily. I am ready to strive hard. please suggest
Hi Anil,
I'm an end user in Oracle11i CRM Service module. Also i was one of the functional core member during implememtation of EBS in our organisation. Also have good knowledge on SQL & Oracle Database.
Can u suggest me, which profile suits me well?
Thanks & Regards,
Pavithara R.
Hi Anil,
I'm working as an end user in Oracle11i CRM Service module for the past 4+ years. Also working with OM, Learning Management / Training Administartion modules. Have exposure to Shipping module. Kindly suggest me, which profile suits me well.
Thanks & Regards,
Pavithara R.
Hi Pavithara
Your profile is best suited for becoming a Functional Consultant.
Your knowledge of SQL will help you configure the universal work queues in Service Implementation.
Thanks,
Anil Passi
Hi Anil,
Thanks a lot
Regards,
Pavithara R.
Hi Anil,
I’ve lot of confusion in preparing my resume. Whether I should prepare my resume as a Functional Consultant or as an End User having Domain Knowledge.
Kindly advice me.
Thanks & Regards,
Pavithara R.
Hello Mr.Passi,
Namaskars! Hope you're keeping and doing very well.
Your blog and website is immensely helpful in uncountable ways.
I've never worked on Programming or Coding so far in my career. I'm based in UK and keen on changing my career in to Oracle Apps Functional side.
Here a few questions in my mind for Ora Apps FUNCTIONAL work:
1. What are the various work levels, I mean hierarchy and the duties to be carried out at that level please?
2. In which stream the jobs are more i.e. in Technical OR Functional stream over the next 2-5 years time?
3. I'm flexible to travel to Europe as well. This point may be of help when guiding me with the queries.
Many Thanks and Best Wishes
Suhani Rajput
Hello Anil,
It's me Suhani again. I missed adding my email id which is rajput139@yahoo.com. I very much look forward for your reply.
Thanks
Suhani
Hi Anil,
i m pursuing MBA(fin)i would like to join oracle functioal.so,my question is i need 2 knw about SQL/PL SQL is it necessary r not.plzz reply me.
Hi Anil,
You have been doing great service & an inspiration for newbies like me.
I've knowledge beginners knowledge on OA framework but what i feel is good knowledge on JAVA/J2EE,web services are highly essential for OA Framwork,ADF,Oracle SOA suite(BPEL).
Pls suggest any other technical components required for indepth understanding of ADF,BPEL.
Thanks in Anticipation
Shiva.
rajat
hi,
i would like to congrates for the fame u are getting
my questions is ,I am doing oracle apps dba now can i become apps funcational consultant later.